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Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

Where do I begin. First of all, show me the credible scientific evidence that denies global warming, from a peer reviewed scientific publication. Just last week yet another conference of global climatologists confirmed the human effects on climate change. There is no debate as to the existence of global warming, only to the exact degree to which human activity has an affect on it. You complain about the semantics regarding "consensus." That is complete subterfuge. There isn't absolute proof that smoking causes lung cancer. Are you going to deny that connection as well? Then you rip the scientific "consensus" of climate change, while trumpeting the "science" of intelligent design. There is no SCIENCE involved in ID. It is 100% faith based. You will find no peer reviewed scientific publication supporting it. If you believe in it, great. That doesn't make it science. No, there is not 100% proof that evolution is completely correct. It is by far the closest explanation we have scientifically. Denying the scientific consensus on that is simply foolish.

Then you talk about political and financial agendas, and that we should hold our wallets. This is as backwards as it gets. Check out who funds these "scientific" studies denying global warming. Here is an example: the Media Research Center, supplier of one such "scientific" opinion, is funded by Exxon Mobil. Hmm, what possible agenda could they have to thwart any attempts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions? And you say that the reality based community has a financial agenda? You must be joking. The right wing meme "they just want to tax us" is utter nonsense. This is about solving an impending problem. Perhaps you are a faithful employee of Exxon, or a big fan of the middle eastern oil community. If so, at least be honest about it. After all, apparently you would prefer the constant US dependence on middle eastern oil, rather than, say, home grown solutions? Like ethanol, solar, wind, even nuclear power? So what is next, am I anti business? Some people are too short sighted to see that the energy sources I just mentioned are new industries ripe for business opportunity.

Finally, you are withdrawing your support for SMU, since we "kicked GOD off campus." That is about the most ridiculous thing I have heard. Do you contend that there are no such things as Christians who don't believe everything in the Bible is literal? I think that would be insulting to the many of them who are part of the SMU community. Using words like "myth" doesn't help your argument when you are advocating for ID. It may come as a shock to you, but not all Christians share your views. Perhaps in response you could cite to a Bible passage that explains the litmus test of Christianity.

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

One last thing. You are interested in equal time. My suggestion is to organize your own concert tour. You could call it the "Please Continue Buying Oil Tour," and go around to various colleges and give a presentation about it. Bring along your banjo. Maybe Ted Nugent can come along, if he can spare the time. You could sing songs about how you know more about global climatology than the world scientific community. It would be a big hit!

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

Scott, thank you for your response.

I will respond later on global warming resources you can get for that issue...but for now please understand that the debate your faculty refused to address is not a 'come to Jesus revival' but a real scientific debate by college profs that can overwhelm you. I encourage you to see for yourself the real science evidence that you probably have not been exposed to. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than for the IT of the earth and for life. This is all about science. I challenge you to go and give it your best shot...as the bible say's in Isaiah "Let us reason together".

What are you afraid of...maybe some accountability to a higher power

WOW! Mr. Hardy, how can you underestimate God. Nobody kicks God off anywhere or anything!

Secondly, common sense can tell you mankind is responsible for the destruction of earth. It's in the cars we drive, the chemicals we create (the list goes on).

I challenge you to take a rode trip to Calhoun County. It's in Texas. Take the road trip and you will find out for yourself that Ms David wasn't dishing out "chickin little tid bit." And when you come back from Calhoun County then you tell us your side of the story.

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give

equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

Scott, thank you for your response.

I will respond later on global warming resources you can get for that issue...but for now please understand that the debate your faculty refused to address is not a 'come to Jesus revival' but a real scientific debate by college profs that can overwhelm you. I encourage you to see for yourself the real science evidence that you probably have not been exposed to. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than for the IT of the earth and for life. This is all about science. I challenge you to go and give it your best shot...as the bible say's in Isaiah "Let us reason together".

What are you afraid of...maybe some accountability to a higher power

And thank you for your respose, David. My response is again to simply examine the science. I am familiar with the theories behind ID, and am certainly not afraid of the debate at all. The reason there has been opposition to this debate is the scientific theories that ID espouses do not stand up to scientific scrutiny. Serious scientists would not wish to debate astrology, would they? And I say that not making light of anybody's faith. Again, that is a whole different debate. If it was a debate on faith, there would be no opposition from anybody. But this is a debate on the science. I am familiar with the Discovery Institute and their ideas, and cannot take them seriously until they gain any traction at all in the scientific community. Your passage from the book of Isiah to me is an example of the greatest quality of the Bible and other religious texts: great life lesson and advice and thought provoking philosophy, independent of what an individual's beliefs are as to the existence of God. But that is wholly separate from the Bible as a foundation of the scientific method. Finally, I would whole heartedly disagree with your characterization that it takes more faith to believe in evolution than ID. Evolution is not faith based at all, it is a reasoned theory based on piles and piles of evidence collected over many years, the precise connections reasoned through this evidence. ID inherently implies supernatural action. It is entirely faith based. Your last quip to fear about answering to a higher power is telling. This display of passive authoritarianism fits in with the idea of ID and they play off each other. That doesn't give it scientific merit.

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

Scott...sorry you have been brainwashed, one day you will meet your maker and he is the ID'er of all the earth and life and you will not have an answer. You to are afraid of the real science of ID. There is no fossil record for any species changing to another and never will be. Many addaptations occure between species...but if you dersire to believe you came from Apes, maybe you did...but I did not!!!

Originally posted by

David Hardy

Is the university going to give equal time to present an opposing scientific view to the student body? The statement in the article,'David said that even though there is now complete scientific consensus that the globe is warming and humans are causing it, Perry doesn't believe it', is at best a fallacy concerning complete scientific consensus that humans are causing it.

Consensus is not science and there is no 'complete consensus' at all. The truth is there are a huge number of reputable scientist who contend that the science being used by this 'so called' consensus is fatally flawed. The 'so called' consensus looks to have a politcal and financial agenda. Hold on to your wallets.

We should all be good stuarts of the environment but this 'chicken little, the sky is falling' approach has no credibility. Hat's off to Govenor Perry for a reasoned approach. The students deserve to hear some truth on this issue.

Human caused Global Warming is a myth presented as truth. If a lie is repeated enough times the masses will accept it. How Sad.

There is a similar controversial event happening at SMU this Friday and Saturday which is the conference on Darwin v. Design. I would encourage all of the student body to attend this conference. It is obvious that you will not get taught the real science of Intelligent Design from your faculty in that 22 of them publically called for the conference to be canceled in a Dallas Morning new editorial this past week. They are afraid to debate real science and believe the myth and consensus science of evolution. Again consensus in not science and there is no scientific proof of evolution, none. Please go hear the scientific proof of our origins.

How sad it is that a private college originally based on the gospel of Jesus Christ has voluntarily kicked GOD off the campus.

Both of my parent's graduated from SMU and I have supported it in the past, in their honor. Unfortunately I can no longer do that in good conscience.

And you say that I am brainwashed. You will notice that I never once denied the existence of God or espoused any religious views at all. Calling me brainwashed in the "evils" of the scientific method is about as ridiculous as you can get. Your rants about meeting my "maker" are a perfect example of ID NOT being science, it is purely faith and emotion. You have yet to mention a single bit of SCIENTIFIC evidence espoused by ID or the Discovery Institute. That signals the end of the debate right there.

You again carry the flag for passive authoritarianism. In your mind you have decided you know what is right, because somebody told you it is right. Then you waggle your finger at anybody who disagrees, being the good toady that you are. But I certainly do appreciate your concern for what happens to me when I die.

Don't believe in the theory of evolution? Fine. Ignore observable scientific evidence in favor of theory that has zero. You are correct about your final statement. You clearly have not evolved.