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NRA, Brady Campaign face off at debate

Abstract:
The Political Science Symposium hosted its annual debate Tuesday night in the Hughes-Trigg Theater. Glen Caroline, director of the Grassroots Division of the National Rifle Association, and Peter Hamm, communications director of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, faced off in a discussion about gun control in America....

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Larry

posted 4/04/07 @ 8:40 AM CST

The castle Doctrine has been passed in many states and more people carry concealed now than ever in history. yet we do no see wild west shootings. The people of this country can be trusted to do the right thing, and they have proven it as these laws have been passed.
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Ken Martin

posted 4/04/07 @ 9:00 AM CST

There should be no gun control DEBATE! The gun control debate was setteled December 15,1791 when the Bill of Rights was ratified by three-fourths of the States.
"Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
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Tommy

posted 4/04/07 @ 9:34 AM CST

It's GREAT to see the NRA getting the message out ! This is the United States of America HOME of the FREE and land of the BRAVE ! YOU have the RIGHT to BEAR ARMS and you ARE RESPONSIBLE for your actions while exercising your RIGHT. If you choose not to carry a gun thats your choice BUT REMEMBER that the Police have no legal obligation to protect YOU !! YOU are the only one resposible for your saftey and secutity.
The NRA is DEFENDING your rights GARANTEED by the Constitution of the USA. PONDER THIS Humans are the only animals on Earth that DO NOT have a Natural DEFENSE ie. claws, spines, or sharp teeth. We have a BRAIN that has allowed us to use TOOLS ie sticks, rocks guns to protect and feed ourselfs. CRIMANALS DO NOT OBSERVE ANY LAW and WILL KILL YOU for almost any reason with anything they can find like a rope, rock, plastic bag, automobile, fire, the list is endless. GUNS are only TOOLS designed to be the BEST at perfofming the job of SELF-DEFENSE and keeping TOOLS from people prevents them from doing thier jobs.
Dont let the Bradey Campaign restrict the RIGHTS of people to do thier jobs. They will start with guns then go after anything else that they feel uncomfortable with. TRUST YOUR FRIENDS AND NIEGHBORS ARE RESPONSIBLE LAW ABIDING PEOPLE SMART ENOUGH TO CHOOSE SAFTEY AND SECURITY OVER FEAR AND OPPRESSION. KEEP AMERICA FREE !!!!!
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Stu Strickler

posted 4/04/07 @ 10:26 AM CST

Every law abiding citizen in this country has the right to own and carry a firearm for personal protection. Fourty eight states have concealed carry laws. Only two don't, Wisconsin and Illinois. If it weren't for the Governors of these two states and the Mayor of Chicago, these states would recognize the Constitutional and God given rights of their citizens.

Why should the citizens trust a government that does not trust them?
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george bennett

posted 4/04/07 @ 11:16 AM CST

thats it? not much of a story,no follow-up?no questions from anyone?
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Ray Bechtel

posted 4/05/07 @ 3:29 PM CST

Originally posted by

george bennett

 thats it? not much of a story,no follow-up?no questions from anyone?


Those were my thoughts also! A debate between these two factions certainly should have had better news coverage than the incomplete
story presented on this site!
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Joe

posted 4/04/07 @ 11:40 AM CST

Why are they afraid of the population at large having guns? Are we not trusted?
The elitist attitude of Hamm and other of his ilk make me sick.
I could go on and on but what is the point. They will still be trying to take away our rights and the pro-gun groups will still be fighting them on it. It gets old after awhile.
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bill ferguson

posted 4/04/07 @ 2:26 PM CST

I believe those who favor all things gun control have good intentions, yet they also have severe misconceptions of human nature. Upon buying my first handgun years ago, my brother in law questioned having a weapon in the home, stating, "If a burglar entered our home, I would take the family outside." My question to him was, "What makes you think they will let you leave?"
Anti gunners believe "It won't happen to me and if it does, the police will show up in time to save the day". Those such as myself, who favor self defense, have a more pragmatic view; you never ask another to do for you what you are morally unwilling to do for yourself. Courts have ruled police have no obligation to protect any individual, merely society at large and cannot be held liable for failing to protect anyone. If police aren't there to protect my family, that leaves me to do the job. So be it. Thank God for the Second Amendment; I don't take it lightly.
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todd

posted 4/05/07 @ 4:55 PM CST

Originally posted by

bill ferguson

 I believe those who favor all things gun control have good intentions, yet they also have severe misconceptions of human nature. Upon buying my first handgun years ago, my brother in law questioned having a weapon in the home, stating, "If a burglar entered our home, I would take the family outside." My question to him was, "What makes you think they will let you leave?"
Anti gunners believe "It won't happen to me and if it does, the police will show up in time to save the day". Those such as myself, who favor self defense, have a more pragmatic view; you never ask another to do for you what you are morally unwilling to do for yourself. Courts have ruled police have no obligation to protect any individual, merely society at large and cannot be held liable for failing to protect anyone. If police aren't there to protect my family, that leaves me to do the job. So be it. Thank God for the Second Amendment; I don't take it lightly.

Have you ever watched the TV show COPS? When was the last time they ever showed up before someone was victimized? That is why I will stand my ground. I refuse to let someone come onto my property and attack me.
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Dennis

posted 4/04/07 @ 6:16 PM CST

I am tired of all this talk about the 2nd Amendment being about militia! How about these people take a look at some of the individual state's constitutions, like in Pennsylvania that specifically states...

Right to Bear Arms
Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

It was specifically written seperate from...

Article VI

Of the militia.
Sect. II. The freemen of this commonwealth shall be armed and disciplined for its defence. Those who conscientiously scruple to bear arms, shall not be compelled to do so; but shall pay an equivalent for personal service. The militia officers shall be appointed in such manner, and for such time, as shall be directed by law.


I know several other states constitutions have similar items written into them pertaining to the individual right to keep and bear arms for self protection.
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Martin

posted 4/23/07 @ 10:14 PM CST

Originally posted by

Dennis

 I am tired of all this talk about the 2nd Amendment being about militia! How about these people take a look at some of the individual state's constitutions, like in Pennsylvania that specifically states...

Right to Bear Arms
Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

It was specifically written seperate from...

Article VI

Of the militia.
Sect. II. The freemen of this commonwealth shall be armed and disciplined for its defence. Those who conscientiously scruple to bear arms, shall not be compelled to do so; but shall pay an equivalent for personal service. The militia officers shall be appointed in such manner, and for such time, as shall be directed by law.


I know several other states constitutions have similar items written into them pertaining to the individual right to keep and bear arms for self protection.



I believe the argument can be stopped much sooner than that. the Second Amendment reads "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

this is very obviously a 2 part deal. Part 1. a well regulated militia... does the US have a well regulated militia? No. Part 2. The right of the people. that is decidedly differant from the militia. we the people, the same people who have the right to freedom of speech, also have the right to keep and bear arms.
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Brian Zell

posted 4/04/07 @ 6:25 PM CST

I hope Brady and his scared and confused followers visit my state, Wyoming, and see how peaceful things are here. It's hard for me to believe, but some people, like Californians especially, have never heard of Wyoming, For those of you who have never heard of us, we're the rectangular state above Colorado and below Montana. Anyway, back to the topic at hand. The brands, makes, models, and categories of guns that people can own here are limitless. Hell, if you wanted to, you could legally own a howitzer in Wyoming, and nobody would hassle you. You could privatley own it, but you would have to pay around $6,000 a year to the state in order to keep it. Anyway, I don't know anyone who owns a howitzer, but you could have one here. Anyway, I hardly ever hear about gun crime in my state, and almost everyone I know owns some kind of firearm. Wyoming, being what some people refer to as the "Heart of the West," has a long history of guns being used by pioneers to defend their homesteads from indian attacks, or just general self defense. Guns are an extremely big part of our heritage, history, and culture. I recently visited Brady's website, if you're like me I scoffed at the ridiculous claims and phony facts that litter that website. He has some little deal on there where he gives letter grades to different states based on how tight their gun laws are. He thinks that Massachusetts, as well as all states, are peaceful and orderly without guns. For example, he gave Massachusetts an A-. That's no suprise, but If all guns were completely outlawed there, just like he wants, He'd undoubtedly give them an A+. Just look how high Boston's crime rates are. Boston is a war zone, like most of those liberal, East coast, New England cities. As you can imagine, Wyoming got an F. He seems to think that Wyoming is virtually as dangerous as Haiti. He should come out here and stay a while and see how wrong he is. Cheyenne is a pretty good sized city, but our crime rates, especially gun crime rates, are very low.

All in all, The Brady Campaign a corrupt organization comprised of pompous, arrogant, ignorant, biased, mis-informed, treacherous, Liberal windbags who don't know when to shut up and enjoy freedom. They know damn well that gun control doesn't work, and that they're only protecting criminals. But they're selfish and stupid and are just trying to protect their dream of a socialist America.
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John

posted 4/04/07 @ 6:26 PM CST

If the Brady group doesn't trust people to own/carry guns, then why trust the police? They have more training, they are more exposed like my oldest son was as a cop in uniform. My 2 peace officer neighbors both carry concealed off duty the same reason I do wherever I can. Keep the peace but prepared against the day that you may need it.
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Graywolf

posted 4/04/07 @ 6:34 PM CST

The news media is largly responsible for the one-sided reporting of incidents with firearms. They report almost all anti-gun people and their agendas, and the times guns are used in crimes. However they fail to report the times guns are used in a legal manner to save lives or assist law enforcement people in arresting crime suspects. The Second Ammendment already spells out our rights, but the media and anti-gunners use anything they can to distort the actual truth. They don't aknowledge the fact that crime decreases where people legally have and carry guns, while crime gradually increases in those areas which fail to let their people protect themselves.
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Charles W. Adams

posted 4/04/07 @ 7:09 PM CST

Guns are not the problem! In every state that has passed "right-to-carry" laws, there has been a DECREASE in violent crime. On the other hand, when England virtually outlawed the private ownership of guns, gun-related crime soared.
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Bob Johnson

posted 4/04/07 @ 8:03 PM CST

I would like to ask the brady bunch this question.

Why do the phrases: "right of the people to peaceably assemble", "right of the people to be secure in their homes", "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people"' and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but the phrase "the right of the people to keep and to bear arms" refers to the state.
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Mike Goldstein

posted 4/04/07 @ 8:06 PM CST

Set aside the fact that gun control has been a dismal failure where ever it's been tried. Here are a few "INCONVENIENT TRUTHS" that Liberals and gun grabbers like the Brady Campaign refuse to deal with in their Delusional Fantasy of a "Gun Free Society".

Fact #1: There were 280 Million Registered guns in the U.S. as of Dec. 2006, and an estimated 120 Million Unregistered. By the end of 2007 there will be over 300 MILLION registered guns and a corresponding increase in unregistered, or a mind boggling HALF BILLION guns in private ownership according to the DOJ. 1 out of every 3 households now own guns, and ownership is increasing. Libs in big city Blue States, have trouble accepting these FACTS, as they often don't know anyone who owns a gun. But these DOJ numbers correspond to National findings, where in Red states, gun ownership includes a MAJORITY of homes. Both the DOJ and BATF admit they'd be powerless to put even an insignificant dent in these numbers, if called upon to do so.

Fact #2. In the unlikely event law enforcement or the military were charged with the DANGEROUS task of gun confiscation, there is a major problem. Police officers and the military are overwhelming Conservative, and as such, believe in upholding the Constitution, including the 2ed Amendment. I should know. I'm a former Police and Military Officer, now retired. I've questioned many of my fellow Military and Police Officers, and ALL state that as a result of the law suit and public relations disaster resulting from the Hurricane Katrina gun confiscation, they'd refuse to carry out confiscation orders; even at the risk of their careers or court martial. All have told me that such enforcement would not only be Unconstitutional, but require entering the homes of neighbors, friends, and relatives, many of whom own guns, to carry out confiscation. This they could not do. Then there's the risk of being shot by people like me who'd not hesitate using DEADLY FORCE to protect their 2ed Amendments rights. The so called "war on drugs", which HAS the cooperation of law enforcement, is a massive failure. Think of the failure gun confiscation would be with very limited to no enforcement. And an unenforceable law essentially ceases to exist.

FACT #3: The only alternative left to Libs is to repeal the 2ed Amdendment. as was done with the 18th. But keep in mind the Volstead Amd, was universally UNPOPULAR. The 2ed Amendment has strong support. In March 2007 the DC Appellate Court found as part of its decision, that the 2ed Amd. is an INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVE RIGHT. So an attempt to get the required 40 of the 50 states, (most of which are gun friendly conservative), plus two thirds of the House and Senate to repeal the 2ed Amd. is a Lib wet dream fantasy. In the foreseeable future the fantasy of a "Gun Free Nation", will remain just that: A FANTASY, believed by only the DELUSIONAL and the terminally STUPID. It won't happen in my lifetime, yours, or your children's. I won't speculate on the far distant future. By then it won't concern us. Till then, DREAM ON LIBS. In the mean time, I offer this challenge: EITHER SHOW ME A PRACTICAL WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR FANTASY, OR SHUT UP! To this day, not one Lib has answered my challenge. AND I CHALLENGE ANY TO DO IT NOW. And we now hear from the Looney Left the deafening roar of ....SILENCE!!!
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Mike Goldstein

posted 4/04/07 @ 8:15 PM CST

Set aside the fact that gun control has been a dismal failure where ever it's been tried. Here are a few "INCONVENIENT TRUTHS" that Liberals and gun grabbers like the Brady Campaign refuse to deal with in their Delusional Fantasy of a "Gun Free Society".

Fact #1: There were 280 Million Registered guns in the U.S. as of Dec. 2006, and an estimated 120 Million Unregistered. By the end of 2007 there will be over 300 MILLION registered guns and a corresponding increase in unregistered, or a mind boggling HALF BILLION guns in private ownership according to the DOJ. 1 out of every 3 households now own guns, and ownership is increasing. Libs in big city Blue States, have trouble accepting these FACTS, as they often don't know anyone who owns a gun. But these DOJ numbers correspond to National findings, where in Red states, gun ownership includes a MAJORITY of homes. Both the DOJ and BATF admit they'd be powerless to put even an insignificant dent in these numbers, if called upon to do so.

Fact #2. In the unlikely event law enforcement or the military were charged with the DANGEROUS task of gun confiscation, there is a major problem. Police officers and the military are overwhelming Conservative, and as such, believe in upholding the Constitution, including the 2ed Amendment. I should know. I'm a former Police and Military Officer, now retired. I've questioned many of my fellow Military and Police Officers, and ALL state that as a result of the law suit and public relations disaster resulting from the Hurricane Katrina gun confiscation, they'd refuse to carry out confiscation orders; even at the risk of their careers or court martial. All have told me that such enforcement would not only be Unconstitutional, but require entering the homes of neighbors, friends, and relatives, many of whom own guns, to carry out confiscation. This they could not do. Then there's the risk of being shot by people like me who'd not hesitate using DEADLY FORCE to protect their 2ed Amendments rights. The so called "war on drugs", which HAS the cooperation of law enforcement, is a massive failure. Think of the failure gun confiscation would be with very limited to no enforcement. And an unenforceable law essentially ceases to exist.

FACT #3: The only alternative left to Libs is to repeal the 2ed Amendment. as was done with the 18th. But keep in mind the Volstead Amd, was universally UNPOPULAR. The 2ed Amd. has strong support. In March 2007 the DC Appellate Court found as part of its decision, that the 2ed Amd. is an INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVE RIGHT. So an attempt to get the required 40 of the 50 states, (most of which are gun friendly conservative), plus two thirds of the House and Senate to repeal the 2ed Amd. is a Lib wet dream fantasy. In the foreseeable future the fantasy of a "Gun Free Nation", will remain just that: A FANTASY, believed by only the DELUSIONAL and the terminally STUPID. It won't happen in my lifetime, yours, or your children's. I won't speculate on the far distant future. By then it won't concern us. Till then, DREAM ON LIBS. In the mean time, I offer this challenge: EITHER SHOW ME A PRACTICAL WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR FANTASY, OR SHUT UP! To this day, not one Lib has answered my challenge. AND I CHALLENGE ANY TO DO IT NOW. And we now hear from the Looney Left the deafening roar of ....SILENCE!!!
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bob johnson

posted 4/05/07 @ 6:12 AM CST

Originally posted by

Mike Goldstein

 Set aside the fact that gun control has been a dismal failure where ever it's been tried. Here are a few "INCONVENIENT TRUTHS" that Liberals and gun grabbers like the Brady Campaign refuse to deal with in their Delusional Fantasy of a "Gun Free Society".

Fact #1: There were 280 Million Registered guns in the U.S. as of Dec. 2006, and an estimated 120 Million Unregistered. By the end of 2007 there will be over 300 MILLION registered guns and a corresponding increase in unregistered, or a mind boggling HALF BILLION guns in private ownership according to the DOJ. 1 out of every 3 households now own guns, and ownership is increasing. Libs in big city Blue States, have trouble accepting these FACTS, as they often don't know anyone who owns a gun. But these DOJ numbers correspond to National findings, where in Red states, gun ownership includes a MAJORITY of homes. Both the DOJ and BATF admit they'd be powerless to put even an insignificant dent in these numbers, if called upon to do so.

Fact #2. In the unlikely event law enforcement or the military were charged with the DANGEROUS task of gun confiscation, there is a major problem. Police officers and the military are overwhelming Conservative, and as such, believe in upholding the Constitution, including the 2ed Amendment. I should know. I'm a former Police and Military Officer, now retired. I've questioned many of my fellow Military and Police Officers, and ALL state that as a result of the law suit and public relations disaster resulting from the Hurricane Katrina gun confiscation, they'd refuse to carry out confiscation orders; even at the risk of their careers or court martial. All have told me that such enforcement would not only be Unconstitutional, but require entering the homes of neighbors, friends, and relatives, many of whom own guns, to carry out confiscation. This they could not do. Then there's the risk of being shot by people like me who'd not hesitate using DEADLY FORCE to protect their 2ed Amendments rights. The so called "war on drugs", which HAS the cooperation of law enforcement, is a massive failure. Think of the failure gun confiscation would be with very limited to no enforcement. And an unenforceable law essentially ceases to exist.

FACT #3: The only alternative left to Libs is to repeal the 2ed Amendment. as was done with the 18th. But keep in mind the Volstead Amd, was universally UNPOPULAR. The 2ed Amd. has strong support. In March 2007 the DC Appellate Court found as part of its decision, that the 2ed Amd. is an INDIVIDUAL, NOT A COLLECTIVE RIGHT. So an attempt to get the required 40 of the 50 states, (most of which are gun friendly conservative), plus two thirds of the House and Senate to repeal the 2ed Amd. is a Lib wet dream fantasy. In the foreseeable future the fantasy of a "Gun Free Nation", will remain just that: A FANTASY, believed by only the DELUSIONAL and the terminally STUPID. It won't happen in my lifetime, yours, or your children's. I won't speculate on the far distant future. By then it won't concern us. Till then, DREAM ON LIBS. In the mean time, I offer this challenge: EITHER SHOW ME A PRACTICAL WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR FANTASY, OR SHUT UP! To this day, not one Lib has answered my challenge. AND I CHALLENGE ANY TO DO IT NOW. And we now hear from the Looney Left the deafening roar of ....SILENCE!!!


Bravo,Mike. I could stock a library with my comments, but most of them have been said before. The gun grabbers are idiots, and their followers either do not have a clue as to what the ramifications of thier support entails, or they are idiots also. If a person supports so called gun control, what they are really supporting is protection for criminals.
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Jim

posted 4/04/07 @ 11:34 PM CST

I think it is time that the pro gun people think about class action lawsuits against government and companies that restrict our ability to defend ourselves. They should have to pay for laws that do not allow us to defend ourselves. They say they are for protecting the people. Well when they pass laws or workplace restrictions to stop us from protecting ourselves they should have to pay for the damage they caused.
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Woodrow Wilson

posted 4/05/07 @ 6:32 AM CST

Well there they go again. They won back the house now it's gun contol time again.It's not going to work. Never has, never will. We finally got the "Right to Carry" in this great state of Michigan. To us Senior citizens it was almost bigger news then Viagra. My sidearm goes on every morning just like my pants & shirt. We fought to long and hard for a right that was us in the first place. Good for D.C. I'll bet money on the crime rate going down in D.C. just like it has everywhere else our second amendment rights were honored like they were ment to be. WATCH.
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JOHN

posted 4/05/07 @ 6:45 PM CST

The gun-control freaks in this country do not understand why this Country is free. It is largely due to the armed citizen, If all guns were taken away (as they want) there would be U.N. troops walking our streets. Other Countries would start to infringe upon our shores, and nothing could stop them. Not more gun-control, but enfrocement of laws.
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noel

posted 4/05/07 @ 10:50 PM CST

It is evident that the Brady bunch only see the words that work for them when reading the Constitution and the documented words of the forefathers.The militia was the people at the time and just one thing more. Why wont the Brady bunch explain why in the world the forefathers would design a bill of rights for individuals,and throw in an amendment that gives only the government a right.There are actually people that believe them because they're to lazy to read U.S. history.
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Jerry Bowman

posted 4/07/07 @ 9:50 PM CST

Originally posted by

noel

 It is evident that the Brady bunch only see the words that work for them when reading the Constitution and the documented words of the forefathers.The militia was the people at the time and just one thing more. Why wont the Brady bunch explain why in the world the forefathers would design a bill of rights for individuals,and throw in an amendment that gives only the government a right.There are actually people that believe them because they're to lazy to read U.S. history.






I agree with your comments, but as I stated in my comments posted 04/06/07, I do not believe the liberal politicians want the truth because "the truth will set US free" taking away their control of other peoples lives. These are academically intelligent people, so it is my belief that they know their history but ignore it because they feel if you do not agree with their utopian ideas and philosophies that you (we) are ignorant and therefore need a (slave)master to "protect" us from ourselves, while they ignore the criminally active, which would serve only to complicate their job of "protector" of the lower class (lower than themselves).
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Jerry Bowman

posted 4/06/07 @ 11:22 AM CST

The only problem with "liberals" is they are not about liberty, except when it is their personal freedom. These are supposedly intelligent people, but the facts don't seem to matter. That's why I am convinced it is not about freedom to them. In their mentality, as we all know, gun control equals people control (slavery) and since they know best how to run our lives and we just don't get it (HA!)any LIE will do if it will bring us weak-minded
individuals under subjection to their "utopian" ideas. We need to make sure their ideas backfire on them-politically!
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Bill

posted 4/17/07 @ 9:09 AM CST

In re: the Virginia Tech Massacre. The Brady group seems much more civilized than the NRA. Making guns totally available has brought us this.
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jeffrey

posted 5/02/07 @ 3:28 AM CST

Originally posted by

Bill

 In re: the Virginia Tech Massacre. The Brady group seems much more civilized than the NRA. Making guns totally available has brought us this.


Once again we here from one lone liberal to stubborn to see that they more than anything bear the blame for the massacre at V.T. Take your head out of the sand and think clearly for one minute, Would criminals prefer a victim to be able to give them a good fight or be helpless? If the police can't be there to save everyone then who will keep us safe? anyways thanks for sharing and if you think you can talk the criminals out of hurting you then feel free to try. I think I would prefer a more convincing approach.
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SMU_555

posted 10/25/07 @ 2:05 PM CST

Originally posted by

Bill

 In re: the Virginia Tech Massacre. The Brady group seems much more civilized than the NRA. Making guns totally available has brought us this.


Sorry friend..the brady group seem like a bowl of fruit-loops. They have a pointless argumentative rebuttal to every POINT that the NRA makes. Gun manufacturers are NOT to blame here, nor are the guns themselves. Look at statistics, look at REAL numbers. If we didnt have guns at all...just for sake of your argument...criminals would still have weapons. Thats their M.O. The would you complain because the victims wanted to carry a club or a knife too? Probably so. You'd make 100,000 open-ended laws to control the clubs and knives...making the same situation we have now...instead of just realizing that criminals are just that...CRIMINALS. Get some backbone here people! Quit pushing your beliefs and thoughts, and ideas of controlling us. Just live YOUR damn life, and be happy with it. I am Faculty on the campus here (I missed the debate unfortunately)...and I will certainly be carrying my handgun on campus WHEN (not if) the law is changed to allow it.
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Quinn

posted 12/14/07 @ 12:13 PM CST

I want people to keep there guns. and even if you want to keep guns away from crimanals ITS IMPOSSIBLE. there is places where you can buy guns/weapons that were stolen from the government. no matter what they do crimals will ALWAYS be one step ahead...
-Quinn
p.s sorry i have horrible grammar im in the 8th grade
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